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		<title>By: My tracker requirements</title>
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		<dc:creator>My tracker requirements</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 21:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] members are active), and a buggy, unsupported tracker. Other xxxcoach bashing can be found here and here.  Rant [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Shameless Plug &#8211; I Want Dual Monitors From Jonathan Volk &#124; KeithWilson.me</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shameless Plug &#8211; I Want Dual Monitors From Jonathan Volk &#124; KeithWilson.me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 15:56:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] first started reading Jon&#8217;s blog when I was a member of PPC Coach and I&#8217;ve been keeping an eye on Jon&#8217;s blog ever since.  If you are expecting to get [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] first started reading Jon&#8217;s blog when I was a member of PPC Coach and I&#8217;ve been keeping an eye on Jon&#8217;s blog ever since.  If you are expecting to get [...]</p>
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		<title>By: PPC Coach Has Class? &#124; Affiliate Marketing Blog - tips, tricks &#38; tutorials</title>
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		<dc:creator>PPC Coach Has Class? &#124; Affiliate Marketing Blog - tips, tricks &#38; tutorials</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Nov 2009 17:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Class? Really? Whoa says the guy who just linked this&#8230; [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Paul (not real)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul (not real)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 19:40:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, before I came across this I knew that this would be my last month at PPCC. But this really makes me DAMN sure I&#039;m going to get all the relevant contacts, info, whatever off there and leave before my next month can be charged.

I am going to make a shit load of money online. There&#039;s no question. I made a decision I dunno how long ago that I would get this handled no matter what. Problem is, as hard as I&#039;ve tried, as many posts as I&#039;ve read, help tickets I&#039;ve posted, and videos I&#039;ve watched, the only thing I&#039;ve gotten from PPCC is negative 49.99/month.

Well, that&#039;s not fair... I&#039;ve made really good contacts off the site. And *THEY*ve helped me a ton. But to be honest, it&#039;s very telling when a paid coaching membership site&#039;s best quality is the other members. Aren&#039;t we here to LEARN? It&#039;s not ppcnetworking.com, is it.

It&#039;s all coming together... now I remember when Will says in the poll tutorial video &quot;oh yea and polls don&#039;t work any more? See, look at the swine flu poll. Polls work&quot; with that defensive tone. Yeah sorry dude, polls suck, Google slaps the shit out of your sites, and networks hate it. Google makes billions on advertising. How the hell are polls your main teaching feature?

Basically, over the last couple of months, Will&#039;s signature in his emails has gone from: &quot;Will Haimerl, ppc-coach.com&quot; to like, &quot;Will Haimerl, ppc-coach.com, mediabuyscoach, seocoach, ppvcoach, insert3characteracronymcoach.com,&quot; lol. The last email there was a new one, and that&#039;s when my logical brain kicked in and said &quot;wtf.&quot; So I don&#039;t know any PPC  and I&#039;ve been a member for 6 months, and I&#039;m going to take 4 more magic pills at 49.99/month, so I can not know 4 more things? Thanks, I&#039;ll pass.

Oh, and can we talk about the PPCC Tracker? For every ticket I posted, I&#039;d get a reply about a week later. The responses varied, but for the most part none of them were remotely close to &quot;Here is the solution,&quot; and most of them were &quot;[Deflective answer]. Enjoy wasting your time with something that everyone asks about, but we&#039;ll never fix or address.&quot; I actually give myself a lot of credit, I figure if as a total newbie I could figure out how to make that broken ass Tracker function to some degree, I bet there&#039;s a lot I can do. I&#039;m sorry, but most of the people I knew from PPCC on AIM who were doing any kind of volume were NOT using the PPCC Tracker. It sucks balls, point, blank, mothafuckin period. I started using Prosper202, and holy shit, my stats actually appeared where I wanted them to. I could actually *track* my stats using a *tracker*, fuck me running.

Can we talk about Wotogepa? I stopped doing polls a while ago, but I stopped using Wotogepa long ago. Recently, I tried them again. Then I remembered why I stopped. If Will is taking out converted clicks and not giving us credit for them, and taking 100% of the commission for *some* of the clicks, it wouldn&#039;t surprise me at all. I sent over 200 fucking clicks over 3-5 offers recently for 2 conversions. TWO conversions. On 4 different offers, is that even possible? Completely unprecedented, not even REMOTELY close, and I use about 8 networks.

Quotes about wotogepa from friends on AIM:
11:47:55 AM me: have you ever had any luck with them?
11:48:25 AM PPCC member: oh god
11:48:28 AM PPCC member: no
11:48:31 AM PPCC member: never
11:48:40 AM Me: ive sent like 250 clicks on 4 different offers
11:48:42 AM Me: 2 converts
11:48:46 AM PPCC member: yeah
11:48:47 AM PPCC member: bad news
11:48:52 AM Me: how is that possible, its the same stupid email/zips im getting from other aff nets
11:48:54 AM PPCC member: and it took me 8 weeks to get paid

Yet another friend on AIM:
2:32:33 AM other PPCC member: bro i erased the wotogepa from my bookmark
2:32:38 AM other PPCC member: i aint running nuting

Gravy train is running dry Will, enjoy it while it lasts.

PEACE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, before I came across this I knew that this would be my last month at PPCC. But this really makes me DAMN sure I&#8217;m going to get all the relevant contacts, info, whatever off there and leave before my next month can be charged.</p>
<p>I am going to make a shit load of money online. There&#8217;s no question. I made a decision I dunno how long ago that I would get this handled no matter what. Problem is, as hard as I&#8217;ve tried, as many posts as I&#8217;ve read, help tickets I&#8217;ve posted, and videos I&#8217;ve watched, the only thing I&#8217;ve gotten from PPCC is negative 49.99/month.</p>
<p>Well, that&#8217;s not fair&#8230; I&#8217;ve made really good contacts off the site. And *THEY*ve helped me a ton. But to be honest, it&#8217;s very telling when a paid coaching membership site&#8217;s best quality is the other members. Aren&#8217;t we here to LEARN? It&#8217;s not ppcnetworking.com, is it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s all coming together&#8230; now I remember when Will says in the poll tutorial video &#8220;oh yea and polls don&#8217;t work any more? See, look at the swine flu poll. Polls work&#8221; with that defensive tone. Yeah sorry dude, polls suck, Google slaps the shit out of your sites, and networks hate it. Google makes billions on advertising. How the hell are polls your main teaching feature?</p>
<p>Basically, over the last couple of months, Will&#8217;s signature in his emails has gone from: &#8220;Will Haimerl, ppc-coach.com&#8221; to like, &#8220;Will Haimerl, ppc-coach.com, mediabuyscoach, seocoach, ppvcoach, insert3characteracronymcoach.com,&#8221; lol. The last email there was a new one, and that&#8217;s when my logical brain kicked in and said &#8220;wtf.&#8221; So I don&#8217;t know any PPC  and I&#8217;ve been a member for 6 months, and I&#8217;m going to take 4 more magic pills at 49.99/month, so I can not know 4 more things? Thanks, I&#8217;ll pass.</p>
<p>Oh, and can we talk about the PPCC Tracker? For every ticket I posted, I&#8217;d get a reply about a week later. The responses varied, but for the most part none of them were remotely close to &#8220;Here is the solution,&#8221; and most of them were &#8220;[Deflective answer]. Enjoy wasting your time with something that everyone asks about, but we&#8217;ll never fix or address.&#8221; I actually give myself a lot of credit, I figure if as a total newbie I could figure out how to make that broken ass Tracker function to some degree, I bet there&#8217;s a lot I can do. I&#8217;m sorry, but most of the people I knew from PPCC on AIM who were doing any kind of volume were NOT using the PPCC Tracker. It sucks balls, point, blank, mothafuckin period. I started using <a rel="nofollow" href='http://www.clintlenard.com/wp-content/plugins/wp-affiliate-pro.php?id=138' target="_blank">prosper202</a>, and holy shit, my stats actually appeared where I wanted them to. I could actually *track* my stats using a *tracker*, fuck me running.</p>
<p>Can we talk about Wotogepa? I stopped doing polls a while ago, but I stopped using Wotogepa long ago. Recently, I tried them again. Then I remembered why I stopped. If Will is taking out converted clicks and not giving us credit for them, and taking 100% of the commission for *some* of the clicks, it wouldn&#8217;t surprise me at all. I sent over 200 fucking clicks over 3-5 offers recently for 2 conversions. TWO conversions. On 4 different offers, is that even possible? Completely unprecedented, not even REMOTELY close, and I use about 8 networks.</p>
<p>Quotes about wotogepa from friends on AIM:<br />
11:47:55 AM me: have you ever had any luck with them?<br />
11:48:25 AM PPCC member: oh god<br />
11:48:28 AM PPCC member: no<br />
11:48:31 AM PPCC member: never<br />
11:48:40 AM Me: ive sent like 250 clicks on 4 different offers<br />
11:48:42 AM Me: 2 converts<br />
11:48:46 AM PPCC member: yeah<br />
11:48:47 AM PPCC member: bad news<br />
11:48:52 AM Me: how is that possible, its the same stupid email/zips im getting from other aff nets<br />
11:48:54 AM PPCC member: and it took me 8 weeks to get paid</p>
<p>Yet another friend on AIM:<br />
2:32:33 AM other PPCC member: bro i erased the wotogepa from my bookmark<br />
2:32:38 AM other PPCC member: i aint running nuting</p>
<p>Gravy train is running dry Will, enjoy it while it lasts.</p>
<p>PEACE</p>
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		<title>By: markez linda</title>
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		<dc:creator>markez linda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Sep 2009 17:35:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the good work. Look forward to reading more from you in the future.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the good work. Look forward to reading more from you in the future.</p>
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		<title>By: Affiliit Review by Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Affiliit Review by Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Sep 2009 05:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doug, when you move over, make sure to tell the people you know on PPC Coach about Affiliit.  I was able to grab about 5-6 people from there and they love it so far, way better for the novice internet marketer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doug, when you move over, make sure to tell the people you know on PPC Coach about Affiliit.  I was able to grab about 5-6 people from there and they love it so far, way better for the novice internet marketer.</p>
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		<title>By: Doug</title>
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		<dc:creator>Doug</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Sep 2009 07:21:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>SO FREAKING TRUE! I paid 10 months of that shit and everyhting is inactive! After PPC-Coach, I went from YES I WILL MAKE A LIVING ONLINE to Maybe I should just reconsider... I do feel somewhat of an idiot. I am migrating over to affilit and I hope it can serve my future desires.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SO FREAKING TRUE! I paid 10 months of that shit and everyhting is inactive! After PPC-Coach, I went from YES I WILL MAKE A LIVING ONLINE to Maybe I should just reconsider&#8230; I do feel somewhat of an idiot. I am migrating over to affilit and I hope it can serve my future desires.</p>
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		<title>By: Clint Lenard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clint Lenard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:55:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s not a bad idea, actually. But, as of tomorrow, we&#039;ll be launching a 7-day $1 trial for all new members... then we&#039;ll be able to let others make their decision that way :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s not a bad idea, actually. But, as of tomorrow, we&#8217;ll be launching a 7-day $1 trial for all new members&#8230; then we&#8217;ll be able to let others make their decision that way <img src='http://www.clintlenard.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: A PPC-Coach member</title>
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		<dc:creator>A PPC-Coach member</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:50:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I may not be especially satisfied with my PPC-Coach membership at this point (I admit the continued value add after month 2 is basically 0), but there&#039;s enough good content in the forums that I&#039;m not in a rush to give it up just yet either.  

However, if there&#039;s a better program I&#039;m all ears.  Problem is I don&#039;t want to carry both at full cost.

So if the gloves have already come off, as evidenced here and elsewhere, why not make a battle of true competition and not just words?  Offer existing PPC-Coach members a free 1st month, or half off for 2 months, or something like that.  Hell, if you&#039;re that good, you won&#039;t have any trouble poaching us.  

And what better way to stick it to the competition?

Hell, offer the same to WA members too, and you&#039;ll get some real buzz going.  You couldn&#039;t ask for a better pre-qualified demographic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I may not be especially satisfied with my PPC-Coach membership at this point (I admit the continued value add after month 2 is basically 0), but there&#8217;s enough good content in the forums that I&#8217;m not in a rush to give it up just yet either.  </p>
<p>However, if there&#8217;s a better program I&#8217;m all ears.  Problem is I don&#8217;t want to carry both at full cost.</p>
<p>So if the gloves have already come off, as evidenced here and elsewhere, why not make a battle of true competition and not just words?  Offer existing PPC-Coach members a free 1st month, or half off for 2 months, or something like that.  Hell, if you&#8217;re that good, you won&#8217;t have any trouble poaching us.  </p>
<p>And what better way to stick it to the competition?</p>
<p>Hell, offer the same to WA members too, and you&#8217;ll get some real buzz going.  You couldn&#8217;t ask for a better pre-qualified demographic.</p>
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		<title>By: T.S.</title>
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		<dc:creator>T.S.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Sep 2009 01:36:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I joined and stayed with PPC-Coach up to month 6. I think the month 6 section of the forum had about 5 threads in it. It was a complete waste of money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I joined and stayed with PPC-Coach up to month 6. I think the month 6 section of the forum had about 5 threads in it. It was a complete waste of money.</p>
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