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PPC Coach Review – The Most Honest Review Ever

Files under My Life | Posted by Clint Lenard

This is the most honest PPC Coach Review you’ll ever see. Trust me, this is the honest-to-god-truth, and there will be no hype, no lies, nothing of the sort…

This is my last reply about this guy and his site, period. I will not go any further with this, because I’m quite tired of it… but I’m also tired of hearing him run people’s names through the mud at any given chance, while he lies through his teeth.

I got started with PPC Coach back in August, 2008. I cancelled my membership about 45 days later when I heard that Ringtones were being taught, after I already noticed that everything else that was being taught was very outdated. Sure, Polls still make people money, but he’s using a copied method that went out of date many, many years ago. It’s like he ripped it straight out of a 2006 ebook.

I eventually went back just to give the guy a benefit of the doubt. Big mistake, obviously.

Ringtones? Really? Not to mention that the Polls method is the ONLY forum that’s even remotely active.

Here’s the thing… do you want to pay $40 a month to learn outdated Polls methods? Oh, you want to learn PPC? There’s a book by Howie Jacobson called Adwords for Dummies. It’s cheaper, and teaches you way more stuff than you’d ever learn about PPC at PPC Coach.

A lot of people question whether Will Haimerl even makes a living as an Affiliate Marketer. I won’t lie, I question that myself… he doesn’t seem to understand Affiliate Marketing, in general, and he’d rather build 20 different coaching sites, all of which he knows nothing about.

Media Buys Coach? Really? That’s his surprise for you people when September 15th hits. OUCH!

Rather than fix his currently outdated PPC Coaching site, he’d rather go off and angrily create competing sites.

See, here’s his mindset: If you sign up for his site, and then decide to create a site that might, for some way, shape or form, compete with any of his sites – you either invite him in as a partner (whether he knows anything about that stuff or not), or you’re banned from the site.

His words, not mine. Honest to god.

The guy has all of his oldest members questioning his every move, as he’s failing with his main venture, PPC Coach, yet going crazy trying to throw up new sites about topics he knows absolutely nothing about.

Media Buys? Seriously? SEO? The guy knows nothing about this, he just wants easy money, as usual. I feel sorry for Carl (DavBit), when I saw the news of this site yesterday. I was pretty shocked.

PPC Coach is full of some awesome people, many of whom have supported Chris and I in our new project, that was never started to compete with PPC Coach, nor was PPC coach ever even considered remotely close to what we had in mind.

See, PPC Coach is just what it is… old, outdated material, no training, no 1on1 support as it claims (he’ll charge you extra for that), and NOT newbie friendly.

This is not competition to us. We don’t go by “methods” … we teach Internet Marketing, not Basic PPC stuff, using old forms of money making methods.

Ringtones… I still laugh when I see it.

In Month 8-12, you’ll see there’s absolutely NOTHING going on in those forums. Nothing. Month 12 is a Mastermind thing… don’t ask, because there’s NOTHING in there!

Months 4-8? Dead, as you’d expect.

The moderators and members run that forum, and that’s how it will always be. Moderators don’t get paid, and he’ll make a thousand promises, but they will never actually be made into reality. Sad.

I hear that he recently banned another respected member (OscarKool), and then changed my username to “douchebag.” The irony, Fidel.

Fidel – that’s Will Haimerl’s new name. He truly believes he owns you once you sign up.

Speak up against it, even as a paying member? BANISHMENT or Public Ridicule! Trust me, this is NOT over reacting. Everybody has seen this, and very few speak up against it…if they do, they’ll be talked down to and/or banned.

Fidel doesn’t understand how to run a Business. He’s no Business man, and he never will be. His attitude is “Fuck you for not agreeing with me, and my shit don’t stink!”

I apologize for the language, but that’s exactly how he thinks. Believe me, we’ve spoken on many occasions, and he comes off as someone who thinks everyone else is wrong, ESPECIALLY customers.

I really wanted to post up visual evidence to show how disgustingly disrespectful this guy is, but for obvious reasons, I’ll hold them off for now.

Fidel really believes that Business is about being a Dictator. You are not allowed to speak up against him, you are not allowed to link to your own sites UNLESS ppc coach is the ONLY site you promote, and you cannot start a site that is anything related to teaching, UNLESS he gets a piece of that pie… it’s all about HIS benjamins, baby! “F#$k you for not agreeing!”

Recently, he’s made plenty of threats, called everybody that speaks up against him very clever names, and has gone on to piss off his most dedicated members.

Is this the type of coaching you need? Is this Professionalism? Is this what you want to PAY for?

If you’re looking to pay for Public Ridicule, then you should definitely pay him and speak up against his actions…if that’s your thing.

Everybody has rules, but you cannot create rules that limit your paying users, by threatening to ban them because you don’t agree with them having an opinion. This is not good Business practice, and this WILL cause his site to die.

Good riddance, Fidel. Good riddance.

Some of the most popular and respected names in Internet Marketing have warned me against this guy. People that normally would never say a bad thing about anyone…but I ignored them.

This guy claims our Project is a Carbon Copy of PPC Coach, or that we flat out stole his ideas…

Look, if you truly believe a guy who has promised you he doesn’t get any commission from those 3rd party tools and programs that he’s pimping through Webinars, or a guy who has promised his members Tools that were never spoken of again, then you’ll probably believe the guy.

But the fact is, I’ve had people tell me they couldn’t believe what they saw when they arrived at my site, because they were expecting something like PPC Coach. One of his first members said “This is what PPC Coach should have been. Unfortunately, he doesn’t care about his members enough to make this type of stuff happen. Excellent job!”

We get great feedback each and every day, and yet we know we’re far from perfect. Are we better than PPC Coach? That’s not for us to decide…but if you’re looking for Internet Marketing Training (something we actually know about, and something Fidel is clueless about), then you’ll find out site to be good, in MY opinion.

If you’re looking to waste time and money after learning about Polls, then Fidel’s site will be great for you. It’s the perfect place to get brilliantly executed, useless methods that died out over a year ago.

If you want to be fooled by his phony emails, and “I’m not one to hype, but” (really? This happens in every email, and every “announcement thread”), then that’s your thing.

Personally, I get annoyed by how he claims he gives away his commissions, doesn’t normally promote other products, or never hyped anything. Know why? Because it’s complete Bull$hit and everyone sees through it. It’s in every “news” bit he places.

He’s his biggest fan, and, quite frankly, I’ve created this post to be done with it all.

He’s run our names through the mud with his lies, hate and complete Bull$hit, trying to cover up the fact that his site is now being over shadowed by sites that offer so much more.

He’s claiming his site is the most established and most respected Affiliate Marketing training site online. Really? Dude, seriously…slap yourself in the face a few more times.

Wealthy Affiliate is the most established and respected Affiliate Marketing site, and they’re our competition, NOT you. I will give them props and free traffic, because I respect them. They’re respectful, respected and a REAL Business. You sir, are no Wealthy Affiliate.

Quite frankly, the only Affiliate Marketing I see you doing is pimping other people’s products to your paying members, and lying about it. Want to make some extra money, and go out of your way to promote another product? GO for it, but don’t B$ your customers. They don’t need that. They’ll respect you more if you’re honest with them.

Over the course of a year with PPC Coach I did learn something…

…other than running Polls.

I’ve learned that some people really don’t understand what running a Business really is. I’ve learned that Customer Retention is seldom looked upon in some sites. I’ve learned that there’s a lot of con artists in this industry.

But what I’ve learned most recently is that some people will lie through their teeth when they fear competition. Even when their “competition” never saw them as such.

I also came to the realization that he likes to take responsibility for everyone’s success, but never for anyone’s failures, including his.

See, I know there’s lots of big earners on PPC Coach, but this is not because of Fidel, or his lack of help that he supplies you for $49.99 a month… it’s because these people go to other sites to learn, too. They succeed because they’re the type that WANT to succeed.

But, what happens to those people who fail? Here’s what happens: He blames them for never asking questions. Regardless if they did or not, they’re the ones at fault.

If you take credit for those few who became super successful, you should take credit for all those whom you failed!

The guy is not a coach…he’s a site owner who’s all about control.

UPDATE: Thanks Will for the lovely reply. Always great to see what you do next!

Here’s proof that the “Eat Shit” guy down there is Will.

Now here’s his username from Affiliit.com, notice the IP’s?

Note that they’re both from Rogers, and that this guy is known to be this professional, like always.

Fidel, I truly feel sorry for you, and I can only hope that you will learn from this when you hit rock bottom.

Over and out. Those who want to flee Cuba, Affiliit.com has much more to offer you.

Real Internet Marketing Training


22 Responses to “PPC Coach Review – The Most Honest Review Ever”

  1. By Manuel on Sep 12, 2009 | Reply

    Wow thats a pretty straight reviw Clint. You even opened my eyes as I never thought like that. Youre right tjere were never real PPC tips given instead we had just to create more fucking polls.

    Man if you ever give out a testaccount on your coaching let me know. Would love to write a honest review for my german readers…

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  2. By Clint Lenard on Sep 12, 2009 | Reply

    Hey Manuel,

    Thanks. I’ve been biting my tongue over the past week, and I almost didn’t post this. But changing my name to “douchebag” was a little too far for me.

    We’ll have a special running next week for trials! :)

    Thanks,

    Clint

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  3. By Manuel Merz on Sep 12, 2009 | Reply

    Sounds great with the Trials :) Hit me up on Twitter as I got a brain like a cat :/

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    Clint Lenard reply on September 12th, 2009:

    Hey Manuel,

    I actually just sent you an email regarding something…to your email you used to reply here.

    Check it out!

    Clint

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    murdoc reply on September 13th, 2009:

    I am also interested in trial. Waiting for next week :)

    Peter aka murdoc

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  4. By ppcbz on Sep 12, 2009 | Reply

    I signed up for the cpvcoach before i realized it was a rip off of that ppv formula or whatever the fuck they call it.

    i don’t know if it works the same way on ppc-coach, but this idiot Will wants you to subscribe month-to-month to get the “next month” opened up for you. So i would have to wait like 8 months to see whatever was being release in the current month (so no matter what you are always 8 months behind.)

    Thankfully this clown refunded me after i made a fit on his forum. This was the first subscription service i ever paid for in the aff marketing niche and it will be the last.

    This guy is all talk. His scripts suck ass and all he does is re-hash information from other people.

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  5. By Eat shit on Sep 12, 2009 | Reply

    So he’s such a joke that you copy everythign he does?

    Good you’re a fucking idiot.

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  6. By Clint Lenard on Sep 12, 2009 | Reply

    Awesome response, not unexpected at all.

    Thanks Fidel! Good to see you here.

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  7. By Affiliit Review by Oscarkool on Sep 13, 2009 | Reply

    The only thing I give ppc-coach credit for is the forums. I met a lot of awesome people there. But the techniques are all bullshit and stupid. I learned a lot more from the free offervault webinars than I did from anything coach gave us on the site.

    I tried getting help and I tried being nice, but I just couldn’t take it anymore.

    I got banned because I spoke the truth. Some guy posted about wanting a mentor and coach said “you get free 1 on 1 help here…” That was it for me. I had to call out that bs.

    Every member on ppc-coach made money doing their own thing. And now he suckered poor Davbit into working with him… I believe Davbit will see the site and leave.

    Jeff

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  8. By Affiliit Review by Oscarkool on Sep 13, 2009 | Reply

    I meant to say see the light* :)

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  9. By Amit on Sep 14, 2009 | Reply

    Damn, read the blog post and it really sucks. I planned to join PPC coach a month back but glad it never happened.

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  10. By Affiliit Review by Oscarkool on Sep 14, 2009 | Reply

    lol coach you totally owned yourself here. What are you like 5 years old? Jesus chris grow up man. You must be paying your wife a lot of money.

    Jeff

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  11. By T.S. on Sep 14, 2009 | Reply

    I joined and stayed with PPC-Coach up to month 6. I think the month 6 section of the forum had about 5 threads in it. It was a complete waste of money.

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  12. By A PPC-Coach member on Sep 14, 2009 | Reply

    I may not be especially satisfied with my PPC-Coach membership at this point (I admit the continued value add after month 2 is basically 0), but there’s enough good content in the forums that I’m not in a rush to give it up just yet either.

    However, if there’s a better program I’m all ears. Problem is I don’t want to carry both at full cost.

    So if the gloves have already come off, as evidenced here and elsewhere, why not make a battle of true competition and not just words? Offer existing PPC-Coach members a free 1st month, or half off for 2 months, or something like that. Hell, if you’re that good, you won’t have any trouble poaching us.

    And what better way to stick it to the competition?

    Hell, offer the same to WA members too, and you’ll get some real buzz going. You couldn’t ask for a better pre-qualified demographic.

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    Clint Lenard reply on September 14th, 2009:

    That’s not a bad idea, actually. But, as of tomorrow, we’ll be launching a 7-day $1 trial for all new members… then we’ll be able to let others make their decision that way :)

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  13. By Doug on Sep 17, 2009 | Reply

    SO FREAKING TRUE! I paid 10 months of that shit and everyhting is inactive! After PPC-Coach, I went from YES I WILL MAKE A LIVING ONLINE to Maybe I should just reconsider… I do feel somewhat of an idiot. I am migrating over to affilit and I hope it can serve my future desires.

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  14. By Affiliit Review by Jeff on Sep 23, 2009 | Reply

    Doug, when you move over, make sure to tell the people you know on PPC Coach about Affiliit. I was able to grab about 5-6 people from there and they love it so far, way better for the novice internet marketer.

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  15. By markez linda on Sep 28, 2009 | Reply

    I found your blog on google and read a few of your other posts. I just added you to my Google News Reader. Keep up the good work. Look forward to reading more from you in the future.

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  16. By Paul (not real) on Sep 28, 2009 | Reply

    Actually, before I came across this I knew that this would be my last month at PPCC. But this really makes me DAMN sure I’m going to get all the relevant contacts, info, whatever off there and leave before my next month can be charged.

    I am going to make a shit load of money online. There’s no question. I made a decision I dunno how long ago that I would get this handled no matter what. Problem is, as hard as I’ve tried, as many posts as I’ve read, help tickets I’ve posted, and videos I’ve watched, the only thing I’ve gotten from PPCC is negative 49.99/month.

    Well, that’s not fair… I’ve made really good contacts off the site. And *THEY*ve helped me a ton. But to be honest, it’s very telling when a paid coaching membership site’s best quality is the other members. Aren’t we here to LEARN? It’s not ppcnetworking.com, is it.

    It’s all coming together… now I remember when Will says in the poll tutorial video “oh yea and polls don’t work any more? See, look at the swine flu poll. Polls work” with that defensive tone. Yeah sorry dude, polls suck, Google slaps the shit out of your sites, and networks hate it. Google makes billions on advertising. How the hell are polls your main teaching feature?

    Basically, over the last couple of months, Will’s signature in his emails has gone from: “Will Haimerl, ppc-coach.com” to like, “Will Haimerl, ppc-coach.com, mediabuyscoach, seocoach, ppvcoach, insert3characteracronymcoach.com,” lol. The last email there was a new one, and that’s when my logical brain kicked in and said “wtf.” So I don’t know any PPC and I’ve been a member for 6 months, and I’m going to take 4 more magic pills at 49.99/month, so I can not know 4 more things? Thanks, I’ll pass.

    Oh, and can we talk about the PPCC Tracker? For every ticket I posted, I’d get a reply about a week later. The responses varied, but for the most part none of them were remotely close to “Here is the solution,” and most of them were “[Deflective answer]. Enjoy wasting your time with something that everyone asks about, but we’ll never fix or address.” I actually give myself a lot of credit, I figure if as a total newbie I could figure out how to make that broken ass Tracker function to some degree, I bet there’s a lot I can do. I’m sorry, but most of the people I knew from PPCC on AIM who were doing any kind of volume were NOT using the PPCC Tracker. It sucks balls, point, blank, mothafuckin period. I started using prosper202, and holy shit, my stats actually appeared where I wanted them to. I could actually *track* my stats using a *tracker*, fuck me running.

    Can we talk about Wotogepa? I stopped doing polls a while ago, but I stopped using Wotogepa long ago. Recently, I tried them again. Then I remembered why I stopped. If Will is taking out converted clicks and not giving us credit for them, and taking 100% of the commission for *some* of the clicks, it wouldn’t surprise me at all. I sent over 200 fucking clicks over 3-5 offers recently for 2 conversions. TWO conversions. On 4 different offers, is that even possible? Completely unprecedented, not even REMOTELY close, and I use about 8 networks.

    Quotes about wotogepa from friends on AIM:
    11:47:55 AM me: have you ever had any luck with them?
    11:48:25 AM PPCC member: oh god
    11:48:28 AM PPCC member: no
    11:48:31 AM PPCC member: never
    11:48:40 AM Me: ive sent like 250 clicks on 4 different offers
    11:48:42 AM Me: 2 converts
    11:48:46 AM PPCC member: yeah
    11:48:47 AM PPCC member: bad news
    11:48:52 AM Me: how is that possible, its the same stupid email/zips im getting from other aff nets
    11:48:54 AM PPCC member: and it took me 8 weeks to get paid

    Yet another friend on AIM:
    2:32:33 AM other PPCC member: bro i erased the wotogepa from my bookmark
    2:32:38 AM other PPCC member: i aint running nuting

    Gravy train is running dry Will, enjoy it while it lasts.

    PEACE

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